tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post115977929891364765..comments2023-05-13T02:24:42.139-07:00Comments on Stones In the Field: Pass it along.Machttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01846076773328384778noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1161120115555426812006-10-17T14:21:00.000-07:002006-10-17T14:21:00.000-07:00Hiya, guys--just got back from Viable Paradise, an...Hiya, guys--just got back from Viable Paradise, and I'm catching up on stuff.<BR/><BR/>Nice to see all of you. :)Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01846076773328384778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1160999114485869502006-10-16T04:45:00.000-07:002006-10-16T04:45:00.000-07:00On this submect, this may be of interest: http://w...On this submect, this may be of interest: http://wwwpublic.ignet.army.mil/File_Ccc.htmrichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14908158041515003616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1160776530882425552006-10-13T14:55:00.000-07:002006-10-13T14:55:00.000-07:00I have to worry - I can't imagine the incredible p...I have to worry - I can't imagine the incredible peer pressure young (and often ill educated) elistees face in the chaos of a war zone, in hostile territory, under life threatening circumstances. I only hope my son is strong in his convictions. I just cringe when I imagine how dangerous it could be for him. <BR/><BR/>Of COURSE I oppose torture and support a soldier's right to refuse an illegal order. It just gives me nightmares when I put my son's name in place of "soldier" anytime we start talking about these things. I can't imagine what it's going to be like for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1160435995993797592006-10-09T16:19:00.000-07:002006-10-09T16:19:00.000-07:00Thirty years ago, in the aftermath of Vietnam, I n...Thirty years ago, in the aftermath of Vietnam, I never would have believed that our government would one day be openly defending the use of torture – only for the right reasons, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1160111878025826572006-10-05T22:17:00.000-07:002006-10-05T22:17:00.000-07:00It's about time it's been publicly confirmed regar...It's about time it's been publicly confirmed regarding the CIA torture prisons. There's been plenty of speculation for years.<BR/><BR/>It's sad when we have to decide/clarify terms of torture. Makes you wonder how we got here. Gives you pause about us finding our way back.<BR/><BR/>Mac, I too have friends in the military. A couple are in Afghanistan, now. They're the ones I feel for--that any of them would be forced to choose, would be horrible. I hope they never find themselves in that situation. If they do,I believe they would follow their heart.<BR/><BR/>Feels good to be here, Mac :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1159992951226807392006-10-04T13:15:00.000-07:002006-10-04T13:15:00.000-07:00Combatants picked up on the battlefield are covere...Combatants picked up on the battlefield are covered under different articles, I'm pretty sure, Scriptorias. I can double-check that.<BR/><BR/>Now that it's out that the US does in fact have secret overseas prisons, and the documented abuses at Gitmo and elsewhere--it seems like a worthwile discussion, for sure.<BR/><BR/>You were very balanced. :) I've a number of good friends on active duty, and a number more who are in the Reserves--it's an issue concerneing a lot of 'em.<BR/><BR/>JM, good to see you here. :)Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01846076773328384778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1159989160232892442006-10-04T12:12:00.000-07:002006-10-04T12:12:00.000-07:00Just read the Article again, closely. It refers t...Just read the Article again, closely. It refers to those not taking part in hostilities. Doesn't that mean that terrorists caught on the battlefield are fair game?Jeff Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950686688288213875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1159988364717177572006-10-04T11:59:00.000-07:002006-10-04T11:59:00.000-07:00Oh, I just thought of this. Has Amnesty Internati...Oh, I just thought of this. Has Amnesty International or some other group estimated how many times the US has actually tortured someone? Are we talking hundreds of instances or just one or two (or any.)Jeff Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950686688288213875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1159988260591076842006-10-04T11:57:00.000-07:002006-10-04T11:57:00.000-07:00*resist... resist...**cannot resist*The only thing...*resist... resist...*<BR/><BR/>*cannot resist*<BR/><BR/>The only thing that's not clear in Common Article 3 is what exactly constitutes 'humiliating and degrading treatment.' That's what the clarification is needed for. (Besides, we outsource our torture so no US military personnel would really have to worry.)<BR/><BR/>You do bring up a good point; I am not bound to follow unlawful orders. Since I spent my activation stateside and never had to face this situation, I haven't thought too much about what I'd really do. Next time we have our annual Law of War class I'll have to bring this up.<BR/><BR/>Something I'm not sure of is how this applies to the CIA. The Uniform Code of Military Justice specifically says we are not to follow unlawful orders but I don't think the CIA is bound by that.<BR/><BR/>*rechecks commment, seems balanced, hits send*Jeff Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11950686688288213875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7260692.post-1159926912385439972006-10-03T18:55:00.000-07:002006-10-03T18:55:00.000-07:00I wonder if it's possible to pass legislation requ...I wonder if it's possible to pass legislation requiring every serviceman and woman to have a copy of said code of conduct on his or her person at all times. Actually, what if it were a UN mandate? Can you imagine the expression on our President's face should it be introduced? Smiling at the dream. <BR/><BR/>Good evening, Mac. Beautifully stated by J M. Bird of PreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com